Gentle Joseki, part I by Pieter Mioch. The patterns. Dia 1 An opening move at the point (komoku) is basically a typical way of not regarding the center. Sensei’s Library, page: point, keywords: Opening, Joseki. SL is a large WikiWikiWeb about the gentle joseki series. Its direction is clearly. Sensei’s Library, page: Whither Joseki , keywords: Joseki, gobase, or Pieter Mioch’s “Gentle Joseki” at the same site: these try and put.

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If white eats up some territory on the right and splits the upper extending to the star point or so and BTW c17 is too conservative hentle white’s doing well. Cheers, a fellow go player 5 dan. Likewise, there is no formation as omnipotent as this small-knight’s enclosure shimari. If someone would be so kind, I think that the community here would greatly appreciate it. A “dictionary” of joseki can evolve easily and naturally from the ongoing interests of users, in much joxeki same way as the names.

Could someone give insight as to why one would pass on the first move advantage in a corner and what sort of position call for such play?

White may very well continue with a play at one and starting a large-scale fight. Looking at this diagram, I cannot but just feel that all the white stones are over concentrated on the left side, so my opinion is that black has a better set up and expanding the framework sounds good to my mind: Should one aim of SL be to provide a good reference for joseki, or just to select a suitable set of variations for learners?

The moves C, D and especially E are not very tight, however, and do not help black ensuring territory yet. And Stefanif you call Kogo a reference you seem to ignore Charles’ comment which I think is a pertinent one. Move F is special and usually not played but certainly not unplayable.

Would it be better to assume that people with a real interest have access to the basic books, and concentrate on ‘errata’, recent developments and innovations, Korean jeongseok and so on? I am unable to download the sgf and you’ll need an account to view it. On Sensei’s Libraryhowever, there are joseki pages in abundance.


That suggests that pages should not become too large and should be chopped up when they do. After the capture of Black 2 by Genfle, Black will capture all of the white stones to the left. Thanks for the correction!

I’m wondering if any of the stronger players on this forum would be willing to write a brief introduction to the contrast of the different opening corner plays. It is indeed very hard to really read from books although I own many books myself.

Never mind anybody’s advice.

Whither Joseki …

It seems the vitality of the center oriented way of playing helps to reinforce one’s confidence or something, that is to say, I have no clue as to why white wins all the games, probably coincidence.

As for early approaches, although there are some situations they are better than taking an empty corner such as facing soften it is part psychological, white wants to get in Black’s face, take the initiative and not get bossed around.

Up to 20 black more or less has koseki white off, the result is about equal. Josekis are powerful and well-tested formations.

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Its main feature is that the situation does not settle easy and that there are numerous variations the results of which are not at all similar. Google [Bot] and 1 guest. For instance, I know that the start points are intended to be attacking stones and like to expand along the sides and are weak in regard to controlling the corner.

It will then be up to white to either play around O17 or to come in and try to break Black’s structure, which Black should welcome. Anyone who wants to read all these from Names in Go should probably get out more often. Simply adding variations from books as one finds them – that can easily overstep any idea of fair usage. Charles Matthews I don’t believe anyone who says they understand the intellectual property position.

In dia 8 gebtle can see yet another move, black one, which is not standard and thought of as too solid, over protective if you want. Charles It is arguably better for most players’ go not to look at fuseki this way.

Note that black 1 in dia 9c works best when there already is a black stone somewhere around A. Joseeki, the final editing remains with one person so that it takes more time for variations to settle into the dictionary. I agree with Hu that SL is not a Go server, a chatroom or newsgroup. Hoshi is often used when talking about an opening move on the point.


Approaching the upper right corner which was already growing stronger with a knight’s move Making a modest but hopefully defensible extension up to the star-point in the upper part of the board Reinforcing the upper left Staking out a larger moyo to the right Black to play.

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So Takemiya made a sanrensei against points and watched how Black tried to develop them. You might find some insight in Peter Mioch’s gentle joseki series, found here: More recently, point openings have been used with success by Yamashita Keigo especially in the Gosei tournament. It is safe to say, however, that A and B are regarded as bad moves. In dia 11 you can see the defensive oriented moves which black can play if he doesn’t want to play a pincer.

A good rule of thumb is corners first, then sides, then center. The joseki resists attack But josekis, when applied blindly, do not necessarily result gejtle a fair outcome when the whole board is taken into consideration.

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Again, I don’t suppose anyone would mistake Unusual enclosures for light reading. As it is, based on the “build joski box like shape” idea, playing around R9 looks good. Charles Matthews What SL begins to look like is a reference ‘back end’, and a ‘front end’ of current discussions. Notice that if White leaves the corner alone, Black can not surround the corner cleanly with a single move.

Chess Informant, a three-monthly periodical of the games of the top players in the world noseki we’re talking “telephone-book” thickness here, well over a thousand games an issue were its’ progenitors: Best Regards, – ChiyoDad.

Figure 1 below shows a White attempt to break a simple joseki pattern.